8AM PT, 11AM ET, 16:00 UK, 17:00 CET
APAC xxxxx2021 - 0500h ET / 1530h India
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| Time | Item | Who | Notes | |
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| 5 min | Welcome | Chairs | ||
| 2 mins | Review / Approve minutes from last meeting () | Chairs |
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| 5 mins | Announcements | All |
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| 15 30 mins | Proposed new Task Force - Trust Registry Protocol TF - responsible for developing the Trust Registry Protocol spec (below) | Drummond Reed |
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| 5 mins | Proposed new Draft Deliverable - ToIP Trust Registry Protocol TSS |
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| 15 General topics - see Notes section below | All | |||
| 5 mins | Task Force SOS (Scrum of Scrums) | TF Leads | ||
| 5 mins | Decision Points | Chairs | ||
| 10 mins | Open Discussion Topics | Chairs | ||
| 10 mins | Review Action and Open Items | Chairs |
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- Darrell O'Donnell summarized recent decisions by the TSWG to simplify a description of the four-level model
- Oskar van Deventer explained that he has written a blog post that discussed renaming Layer 2
- He included nine requirements
- We had a discussion about layer naming and agreed that it was a good time to rename the layers to be more descriptive of their requirements
- "Privacy routing layer" was suggested
- We had a long discussion about requirement #9 on Oskar's list: "The communication channel shall enable compliance with legal requirements, like legal intercept."
- Oskar described the "trapezium" that telcos deal with
- Karl Kneis pointed out that we need to be very careful about the designed of this layer
- Drummond Reed pointed out this blog post on "Reciprocal Negotiated Acccountability" from Daniel Hardman
- Karl Kneis warned about our not getting too deep on this topic
- Oskar van Deventer asked for feedback about the requirements. He noted that no current technology addressed all nine of the requirements.
- Drummond Reed asked about whether this included DIDComm V2, which is still not complete.
- We moved to the topic of the EU Digital Identity Wallet announcements made on June 3
- Darrell O'Donnell announced that the Trust Registry Task Force will begin meeting on Thursdays at 10AM Eastern Time.
- Karl Kneis asked about the status of the Saturn V TIP (ToIP Interoperability Profile).
- Darrell O'Donnell suggested that the TIP may need a new name as the current name is too associated with American culture.
- Darrell also suggested that the TIP needs some adjustments for greater alignment with different Hyperledger Aries implementations.
- Karl Kneis would like to see this TIP putting out a clear spec and interoperability requirements, which is not yet the case, given the differences between Saturn V and the Aries Interoperability Profile.
- Kaliya Young suggested that the TSWG should open a conversation with the DIF Interoperability Working Group that she co-chairs.
- And I think it is important to acknowledge that there is active work going on trying to get a real working bridge of communication between Airies based agents and the other cluster of real working interoperability SVIP - with WACI PEx (which is called for in the Good Health Pass Interoperability Blueprint)
- Kaliya would like to see that by summer we are testing on this - exchanging JSON-LD ZKP with BBS+ credentials.
- Darrell O'Donnell would like to see a more formal relationship
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- Reminders
- Task Force Activities
- Each TF is requested to prepare and maintain a TF plan with target dates.
- All TSWG TF Members should read our Deliverable Process and TIP Lifecycle Management; Open issues where appropriate.
- Events
- Planned: None
- Education Meetings
- Planned: None
- Resources - will be added to the TSWG Resources page:
- Task Force Activities
TSWG APAC Interlock
APAC meetings not happening discretely at this time.
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| TF Name | Mission | Members | Status |
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| Privacy by Design | Submit a ToIP Design Principles Deliverable. | 2021-05-31 ACTION DARRELL - find status (git, Google Doc, etc.) to prepare for CLOSEOUT | |
| Laws of Identity | Submit a ToIP Design Principles Deliverable. | Chris B (lead) | DRAFT HERE (Google Docs) 2021-05-31 ACTION DARRELL - find status (git, Google Doc, etc.) to prepare for CLOSEOUT |
SSI Principles (DP0031) | Submit community work from Sovrin SUGF TF ad SEGF TF | MOVED to SC for approval - will drop from TF SOS next meeting. 2021-05-31 ACTION DARRELL - find status (git, Google Doc, etc.) to prepare for CLOSEOUT | |
| TSWG 4-Layer Model | Darrell O'Donnell (lead) << NEED MORE >> | Top-Down using HL-Aries and HL-Indy (+ other ledgers possibly) as the framework exemplar. The goal is to explain the various GOAL: Get something out. EARLY SKELETON DOC how does this 4-layer support the needs that we see... | |
| Saturn-V TIP Task Force | Submit a TIP Recommendation Deliverable. | Dan Gisolfi (lead) Chris B | |
| TSWG Glossary | Collaborate with CTWG on the process and delivery of a TSWG Glossary. | RJ Reiser (lead) | Glossary is an ongoing effort. Any updates? "Big 4" should be referencing and be consistent (use terms, introduce new terms if absolutely required). |
Foundational RFC (WP0010) | RFC 289 Conversion | NEED CLARITY Drummond Reed& Darrell O'Donnell | |
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Decentralization Task Force (DP0005) | Submit a ToIP Recommendation as a Design Principle. | Daniel Bachenheimer (Cross Foundation TF Representative) | Dependency for Saturn-V proposal. DISCUSS AT 14JUN2021 - being handled elsewhere
Daniel Bachenheimerto coordinate with Jessica Townsendon the leadership of this TF which effectively will be an extension of the UFWG TF mission. Net result: This TWWG work will be captured as a representative of the TSWG in the proposed TF. |
Technology Stack Task Force | Deliver an approved specification RFC 289 Conversion (TSS0002) | NEED CLARITY Drummond Reed (Create Wiki page) & Darrell O'Donnell Q1 Deliverable - as part of the "Big 4" documents. NEED:
Start with TSS0001 as beginning. CHALLENGE - Review TSS0001 to get a grounding in what is required here. Content will be extracted from current state of WP0010. Goal here is to adapt Hyperledger Aries RFC289 into a Tech Spec. | |
ToIP Stack Design Principles Task Force (DP0034) | Combined Principles doc for the ToIP Stack. Part of "Big 4" deliverables. | See Wiki discussion draft as well as the Big 4 description. Please also see WIP Google Doc. 2021-05-31 works continues - should be getting attention soon RAISE at next (14JUN2021) meeting Drummond Reed |
Decision Points
- None
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- Our Foundation Deliverable roadmap is a WIP (See Roadmap)
- Triage GitHub Issues
Action items
- Drumm & Darrell to clean this page up - goal is to move items OFF or UP (to TSWG page)
- Define and communicate to ToIP SC our deliverables and process.
Needs to update current deck with suggestions for Use Cases Model for TSWG. Need to discuss Issue #1 - TIP Repo Template Contents
- Move SOS to Trello Boards for 2021
- Migration to Kanban tooling.
- Trello Account Setup; Board creation WIP.
- Goal is to improve WG reporting (scrum activity) and allow Task Forces to organize and manage activity.
- Upon completion of KanBan boards: Convert TSWG Bi-monthy Meeting into a Monthly Scrum of Scrums (SOS); Allowing TFs to meet more frequently and to be more focused on actual deliverables than status updates.
- Migration to Kanban tooling.
- Sam Smith - Task Force Proposal for a meeting to be scheduled for January.
- Verifiable Authorizations: Mapping vCreds spec to authorization semantics. Positioning this concept with respect to other industry activity.
- Drummond noted that this thread was ongoing in the GitHub for the W3C Verifiable Credentials Data Model 1.0 spec, and that it was highly relevant to this proposed TF
- Set Agenda for next meeting
Action items
- None
Open Items
Low priority items that failed to gain volunteers to champion cause.
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Change TSWG Mtg slot. - ISO Interlock discussion : ToIP Liaison (Vicky Lemieux) to ISO TC 307 (Emily Dawson Secretariat)
- Need to establish chair duration and cycle times
- Possible library - collection of links
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